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Hi Michel,
I’m very glad to hear of your organization and that action is still being taken on this subject. Most links on the subject date back a year or two. I don’t know what a provincial MP can do. I’ve written to all the players, as you have suggested (the mayor, MPs, the ADM etc). Even to Emmanuella Lambropoulos, the new member of parliament for Saint-Laurent. She says that the planes fly directly over her home in St. Laurent, as well.. She is looking into the problem.
Is the noise problem in Ahuntsic getting worse or better? Does this have something to do with airport construction (runway assignments)? Is there any hope that the situation will get better any time soon? When I hear of someone (the doctor) moving after 30 years of putting up with the noise, I’m not too hopeful.
I just moved to Ahuntsic on June 29, 2017. I was careful to choose an apartment with quiet tenants on a relatively quiet street, but had no idea that noise from passing aircraft would be so ridiculously frequent and loud. So now I’m wearing headphones and/or earplugs most of the time, with the windows closed.. It seems that the politicians missed their chance on Mirabel and now we’re stuck with an airport in the city. Most cities (like London or Chicago, where I once lived) put the airport (or most flights, at least) outside the city. Common sense.
Clearly, many Montreal neighbourhoods are affected. You’d think if enough people complained, the powers that be would be forced to reconsider Mirabel, instead of pouring more money in the Dorval location.
I seriously thought of leaving Montreal this past move, but I decided to stay. I’m starting to regret that decision.
In any case, thanks for your efforts,
Michael Crochetière
10242 Rue Clark, Montréal, QC H3L 2R9, Canada
Montréal, Québec
H4V 1P4
Tel: 1-438-383-2929
michaelcrochetiere@gmail.com
it can be done
http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/not-over-my-backyard-airport-s-neighbours-to-the-south-applaud-new-flight-patterns-1.2353027
Begin forwarded message:
From: michael crochetiere
Subject: Re: Aéroports de Montréal – REF: 374503 – Michael Crochetiere
Date: 7 July, 2017 4:26:32 PM EDT
To: YULClientele
Dear Anne-Marie Urbain,
The name is Crochetiere, not Chrochetiere.
Thanks for the detailed explanation – but it just illustrates the serious life disruption that I (and thousands of other Montreal residents) experience on a daily basis. Do you live in an area below a flight path? If you did, you would, no doubt, have a different outlook.
I realize that making major changes to flight paths would be a big undertaking – but this is not my problem. The powers-that-be decided foolishly some years ago to put all their eggs in the Dorval (PET) basket, while ignoring the Mirabel option.
For starters, I have written to several politicians, NAV Canada, Transport Canada, CBC. I’ve joined the http://lpdmt.org/en/ (300+ likes on Facebook)
I expect that the push for a major change will grow rapidly.
I’ve lived in Vancouver, Regina and Chicago. Their airports are all well outside the city and I’ve never had any noise issues. I took this apartment in Ahuntsic, with quiet neighbours on a quiet street (no where near the airport) – because I wanted a quiet place to live. Not too much to ask.
The Calgary airport was forced to make major changes (see below) by citizen action. It’s just a matter of time until you do the same. You should be looking for solutions instead of telling me how and why my life is seriously disrupted by your airport’s poor planning.
http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/not-over-my-backyard-airport-s-neighbours-to-the-south-applaud-new-flight-patterns-1.2353027
Sincerely,
Michael Crochetière
10242 Rue Clark
Montréal, Québec
H3L 2R9
Tel: 1-438-383-2929
michaelcrochetiere@gmail.com
https://michaelcrochetiere4.wixsite.com/mysite
cc: NAV Canada
On 2017-07-07, at 3:53 PM, YULClientele wrote:
Reference: 374503
July 7th, 2017
Mr. Michael Crochetiere
michaelcrochetiere@gmail.com
Mr. Chrochetiere,
We acknowledge receipt of your e-mails regarding aircraft over flying your area. Your complaint has been registered.
Montréal–Trudeau has three runways, two parallel (06R-24L and 06L-24R) and a third intersecting them (10-28). This runway configuration has been in place since 1956. Your address is located under the flight path of runway 06L-24R.
Runway assignments are the responsibility of Nav Canada and runway use is dictated by wind direction, since aircraft must take off and land into the wind.
Southwesterly winds generally dominate in the Montréal area, which results in take off and landings toward Lac St-Louis. On final approach when landing, pilots follow a standard procedure which is to align the aircraft with the runway at a minimum of 3,000 feet (approximately 15 km from the runway) and make the final approach with an angle of descent of 3 degrees. In Southwesterly wind conditions, runway 24R is mainly assigned for landings.
You will find below a map taken from the ANOMS system which contain Nav Canada’s radar data in Southwesterly wind conditions. Your address is represented by the black square and the red lines are landing trajectories.
On the other hand, Northeasterly winds generate take off towards the city. After take off, jets must climb in a straight line until they reach an altitude of 3,000 feet before turning towards their destination. Jets do not reach 3,000 feet at the same point because the type of aircraft, load and weather conditions can affect the rate of climb. Turboprop and piston (propeller) aircraft initiate a turn as soon as possible following take off. The map below shows trajectories in Northeasterly wind conditions. The blue lines represent departure trajectories.
More information on soundscape management is available on ADM’s website at http://www.admtl.com/en/adm/communities/soundscape.
Please accept our kindest regards,
AÉROPORTS DE MONTRÉAL
Anne-Marie Urban
Agente, Relations clients
Officer, Customer Relations
800, place Leigh-Capreol, bureau 1000
Dorval (Québec) CANADA H4Y 0A5
http://WWW.ADMTL.COM
De : no-reply@admtl.com [mailto:no-reply@admtl.com]
Envoyé : 3 juillet 2017 17:45
À : YULClientele
Objet : 374503 – Ahuntsic – Michael Crochetière
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Message: I just moved from NDG to Ahuntsic. I’ve been here 3 days and I find the amount of very loud air traffic over my area to be utterly insane. I seriously considered leaving the province, but I found this (otherwise) great apartment, so I decided to stay. Is this situation temporary or should I just cut my losses and look for a way out.
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Is anyone there? 🙂
Have you thought of going on radio/TV with this issue, to get people on baord?
Here are à few interviews given by members of Les Pollués de Montréal-Trudeau. The first link however is showing Émilie Thuillier, responsible for this file at the municipal party Projet Montréal. She is discussing the issue at the Télévision communautaire de Montréal. The second, is about the text to our class action.
Should you want to join us and share your skills, please contact our President, Pierre Lachapelle or myself, Francine Lauzon.
http://www.tcftv.ca/BUL-092.html
http://services.justice.gouv.qc.ca/dgsj/rrc/Demande/DemandeDetail.aspx?DemRecID=1320
http://tcftv.ca/BUL-119.html
http://www.985fm.ca/audioplayer.php?mp3=222382
http://mp4.matv.ca/miseajour_bruit.html